I'd like to be able to visit the nth page of a search result. Currently, only the top 20 are shown.
I'd like to be able to visit the nth page of a search result. Currently, only the top 20 are shown.
created: 13 October 14 at 12:53 AM (build: 10/13/2014 12:02 AM alpha)
closed: 30 May 16 at 01:05 AM (build: 5/30/2016 12:33 AM beta)
I would like any searches with more than 20 items to paginate, but yes, given that you can not narrow down feedback results in particular by searching with multiple terms, this is very necessary. So a search on 'search' returns more than 20 results, but there is no way to do the common methods of refining the search, like 'search, syntax' to try to find any feedbacks that are about the search syntax, unless you get lucky and a feedback is titled with the exact phrase 'search syntax', and you try it without a comma.
This is a definite need, for feedback and profile searches.
Still nothing on this 1 year, 1 month, 1 week and 5 days later?
Wrecked Avent Site Administrator
This is sitting at 54 endorsement points. It's not been on my todo list for a while.
It's also just not all that necessary right now. We don't have all that many profiles, and you can almost certainly refine your search to get less than 20.
I can't help but feel that we might have more users/profiles if you made some very simple quality of life/user experience improvements like this one.
Paginated search results is super basic stuff, particularly when you're billing Litphoria as 'The most efficient roleplaying and writing system on the web'.
Anyway, this now has 120 points, so hopefully that helps. Is there a way to sort the roadmap by endorsement points or will I need to take some points off this to endorse that as a suggestion?
Wrecked Avent Site Administrator
On the feedback list, you can simply hit roadmap. 120 points knocks it up to the first page.
I'm not saying I won't do it. Just that there's only so much time I have to work on features, so priority decisions have to be made, and I've never talked to any who user who was particularly bothered by this not being here, since our searching system is so rich.
Wrecked Avent Site Administrator
On the feedback list, you can simply hit roadmap. 120 points knocks it up to the first page.
I'm not saying I won't do it. Just that there's only so much time I have to work on features, so priority decisions have to be made, and I've never talked to any who user who was particularly bothered by this not being here, since our searching system is so rich.
I didn't realise it sorted by points and then state, so I thought the e.g. 221 point suggestion on page 3 was out of order - that makes sense now.
That said, something else to consider with pagination is that it makes the site look smaller if you do a relatively broad search and only see 20 hits.
I don't think it's uncommon to want to cast a wide net and sift through the results on profile quality metrics that aren't searchable rather than performing very specific searches that only turn up a few results. I'd much rather find a great roleplayer who doesn't share my interests 100% than a mediocre one who does.
Read this again. The OP is mainly about FEEDBACK, where searching is super basic. I'm not sure about profiles being fine without pagination. There are a lot of females who like 'x'. (Or males.) Granted, 'realistically,' once you get down to the 20th one, it's probably someone who hasn't been on for a year and will never respond to your PM. But it's bizarre that you can't see past 20. Real cheap fix. Forget pagination for now and just show 40 or 50 results. That's not as much scrolling as half a chat page I bet.
Oops, I read Cressida's post as the first post. The OP doesn't specify. I had to go and double check after I posted instead of before, and there's no edit here for some bad reason. In any case, the feedback search is that bad. It can be really hard to find your own old feedback if the title is too similar to other feedbacks and all you can remember is main keywords.
Wrecked Avent Site Administrator
I imagine the OP is suggesting for pagination as a global change to all search results. If this is meant to be specific about feedback, it should probably be edited to mention that.
I'm not saying I won't do it. Just that there's only so much time I have to work on features, so priority decisions have to be made, and I've never talked to any who user who was particularly bothered by this not being here, since our searching system is so rich.
So this was from November 2015 and it's now January 2016, and I don't know if you've had conversation since, but:
People are definitely bothered by pagination not being here.
A newbie who came into chat and has been checking things out was also just now confused in thinking that hitting the cap of 20 meant their search was too specific and there were literally only 20 results to be found on the site. (They were searching for something pretty generic too: "find profiles into romance with sex of male".
This just hit 413 endorsement points and became the most endorsed suggestion I've ever seen on here. (None of those are mine yet.)
This one is still being worked on. The main issue is that with the current code, it refreshes the results based on recent site activity, which means that the results could get jumbled up as you browse through different pages. As a stopgap, search results now return 100 items rather than 20.
So the worst case scenario is that you do a search, read page 1, turn to page 2 and a profile that was on page 2 when you did the search is now on page 1, meaning you don't see it?
The current system also means you miss some of the search results, so that doesn't seem like very good logic or a very good fix.
To clarify: complete search results that could potentially change order when you turn a page are better than incomplete search results.
This has now been open for 1 year, 7 months, 1 week and 1 day.
Searches are currently returning 25 results, down from 100 (the stopgap outlined by Griz 02/03/16).
This feedback is also now on page 3 of the roadmap, even though it has 3.5 more endorsement points (383) than the 55 items before it on the list combined, (108) which include 41 'confirmed' items with 0 endorsement points.
I don't understand the feedback system.
Wrecked Avent Site Administrator
The sorting on roadmap goes by status, then endorsements. If this was sitting "in review", it would never appear above an "accepted" one.
Right, I get that. Back in March this was on page 1, though. Is the confirmed status new, and what does it mean? How does it differ from accepted?
Also, is the change from 100 search results to 25 intentional?
Wrecked Avent Site Administrator
I have (very recently, like today recently) flattened the sorting order so it'll be more consist with endorsement points.
confirmed
is used for bugs. It means that the bug was able to be reproduced by a staff member (hopefully a developer). Implicitly it means it will be fixed at some point. accepted
is for non-bug feedback and currently means that all 3 staff members who maintain feedback have agreed it is a thing that the site should have eventually, and is poised to be implemented whenever it comes up in priority. Endorsement points help, but don't dictate, that priority, particularly since so few people are spending endorsements points (meaning they're not really a good measure of what people actually want, only what a few people who really care want).
The change from 25 to 100 then back to 25 was intentional. I tried out 100 to see how it would work on here, and the short answer was not very well, as it increased loading times by a few seconds. I didn't find this acceptable, so I knocked it back down to 25 to keep at it more snappy, relatively speaking. Moreover, 100 items per page ... doesn't really solve the problem of needing to paginate, potentially deep, into a result set. It mostly just means you need to paginate less.
Roadmap sorting and confirmed status, great, that's a good change and I understand it now.
I very strongly disagree that search results taking a few seconds longer to load is a problem, though.
With search results as they are now, results past 25 never load. Surely that's less good.
Wrecked Avent Site Administrator
This is now on the testing site.
Wrecked Avent Site Administrator
And now in production.
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