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Feedback ยท Give the Yes and Will Try interest lists a "not important" area (needs discussion)

Theoretically there's two goals for profiles: First, signal strongly what I want to do. Second, show up in searches for things I'm OK with doing. When it comes to an interest I don't care about, I can't achieve both, because either I compromise the signal, or I'll be less searchable. (Someone searches "find profiles into sex and travel"? Sure, whatever, I'll travel, I just don't care enough to have it on my list.)

I want our Yes and Will Try lists to have a Not Important area. I want to be able to add interests there that are searchable, but those should be hidden by default. There should be a link to show those Not Important interests, like: "29 more interests are in this list which the author considers not important enough to show. Click to see them."

I'm not suggesting the same for Mandatory, Core and No because they're always important. Mandatory and Core are what you're all about, while No is what you're absolutely not about. Maybe it'd be applicable for No? I'm just not sure of a scenario in which it would be.

Safe to say search should be a bit smart and try to find people who don't have all the things you're searching for in Not Important. (But then, the current search will also happily supply people who have all the things you list in Will Try and none in Core, so it probably could be a bit smarter anyway.)

Previous feedback about these unimportant interests has been: ability to indicate interests that I don't care about, dismiss a trait/interest, and removing the 100% completion pressure. All of those focused on just not having to add the thing. A reasonable objection has been: "but I still want to know how you feel about that thing", and none of those help you be searchable.

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created: 14 January 16 at 03:03 PM (build: 10/1/2015 4:20 PM beta)

Velus

I agree that a more intelligent search would make this totally unnecessary, and would in fact be desirable for reasons entirely unrelated to these things on account of the fact it'd just plain be better, and be able to sort by relevance and stuff.

This suggestion's made under the assumption we don't get a smarter search for a while.

Desdemona Fireheart

Interests I don't list are not a hindrance or advantage to play with me. If you search for someone who accepts travel and sex, you have to search for "those interests not on NO".

Wrecked Avent Site Administrator

It would actually be easier to return people who don't have the interest on their list then it would be to add a new interest area and have everyone go and painfully update their profiles with every little interest they don't care about.

The contention is I just don't see the use in returning people who don't have it listed. If you want Sex and Travel, you want people who have said "yes I want this", not people who didn't even care enough to list it.

Samus

Right now I have two roleplays in action and planned which involve a lot of travel. I just don't really care about it. Human wise, people can just assume it's such a mundane thing there's no way I'd hate the idea.

Samus

I just found a new way to articulate what's going on here. There's a conflict of interest in the system (it's not just our system):

  • I want to keep my list short and succinct. I want to convey all the most important details to people, and leave off the cruft that doesn't rev my engine.
  • Others want to see where I stand with so-and-so things they're into, just to see if I'm OK with doing that as well. (I'm counting searching under this.)

Lots of good roleplays occur after someone's asked me "how do you feel about X?" where X isn't something on my list. "Sure, that's fine." I might even have a lot of fun with it, without realising I would.

This is also a signal vs noise conflict. I could add all that extra stuff, but it drowns out the strong signal of what I am into. I think I've mentioned that before though. I want a high ratio of signal to noise in my profile. I think letting me dump aside the extra stuff is, in terms of just flat-out reading a profile (not necessarily searching for one), the most effective way to have both the signal and the noise - but still distinguish them.

Desdemona Fireheart

A crucial point is, that I have more than one character. If you have "succubus" on dislike but offer the bdsm play I love - then I will ask you with another char for a RP. The search pattern, which char is potentially an interesting partner for me, only exists in my head. I need a few basic informations and my interest is to get those with a quick glance at your profile. If you have gore, vore and watersports at mandatory I don't have to waste time with checking out your gender preferences.

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