litphoria

It'd be really great to have the option, while creating a new profile, to enter the url of an F-List profile and have it translated into a Litphoria profile.

This would lower the barrier to entry by allowing people to migrate over without having to recreate their profile(s) by hand.

WA left a comment though right at the end saying:

I may reconsider an import after I add this. But I'm really just not seeing this working out in the long term.

I'm not clear on what the "this" refers to. (The bbcode -> markdown converter?)

I think this would be a really great feature, and I'd happily volunteer to create a list of fields/options that match if it would make mapping them across easier.

The problem is two fold:

• This creates an unnecessary and unwanted connection between f-list and litphoria
• The two profile systems are not comparable to one another

It would be possible to have a trivial amount of profile transfer, but imo, time would be better spent making character creation easier overall.

I do think general character creation improvements should take precedence. There are major differences between the profiles. With work, some information could be translated, but in the end you'd still get an incomplete Litphoria profile. It wouldn't reduce the work you needed to do by all that much. Additionally, this would benefit only people who use F-list. General improvements will benefit everyone.

There's already a connection between f-list and litphoria; every single person I've spoken to on litphoria has come from f-list, litphoria is advertised to every slimcat user by default and the target audience is identical.

The profile systems also have a lot in common. I'll make a profile on each site and post the links here once I have as an example.

There's a connection from F-list to litphoria, but not from litphoria to F-list. This is an important distinction.

Why is that an important distinction, and what's the theoretical downside?

Allowing people to import characters from f-list doesn't keep any other changes to profile creation from being made.

F-list is a porn site. Litphoria has aspirations for much more than just that. Aside the obvious legal ramifications of linking to porn sites without putting up an age wall, it creates a very odd impression on people who didn't come from f-list.

At the end of the day, I don't think litphoria has anything to gain by associating itself with f-list like that, and only everything to lose by creating the wrong impression or image to others. And, as I said, the profile systems are not compatible - there's a superficial similarity, but things like f-list profile tags cannot be reasonably translated into litphoria traits. There is no way to turn "5'6" into, for example, "average" body height.

Is there an age wall on litphoria? I just went to create a new account and didn't see anything like that, and I don't see anything in account settings about it.

Aspirations aside, the overwhelming majority of profile options are sexual and I don't think I've seen any non-porn roleplays here.

Allowing for the import of profiles wouldn't require linking to f-list in any way that can be clicked through; just a text box where you can put the url of your profile there. You could even call it 'that other site. If you don't know which one this means then don't worry about it' or something. Besides any of which, if someone has an f-list profile url they've already been to f-list.

You may not be able to translate 5'6 to average body height but you can translate "Biting: yes" to "Biting: yes" etc.

Of course there's an age wall on litphoria, some profiles have sexual context. That's a legal requirement.

And my point was most of the useful things you'd want to import are like that, where there's no way to translate. We could potentially copy over gender and maybe 10% of f-list kinks, but you would still be missing 90% of your profile due to things like preferences and traits and other interests. I don't feel it's worth any time to spend to get that 10% when you could just make it easier to create that 10% from scratch and help everyone.

Right, I ditched the agewall cookie and I see. I may be missing something but I can't help feeling like that could use some tightening up; you're told you must be 13 to access the site and 18 to access any adult material on it, then sent to the front page with no clear indication of what is and isn't adult material.

As I've said, I'm happy to help by creating a list of matching fields and values. I think there are more than you'd think.

As I've also said, this change is not mutually exclusive with any other changes to profile creation, which I agree are also needed.

I'll add a third technical concern: F-List could relatively easily break our character importer, or sabotage it with junk data, if they're willing to spend a bit of time on figuring out what on the page it's reading and instead ensuring it sees something incorrect.