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Feedback ยท Scalie to Scaled (accepted)

Changing the skin type from Scalie to Scaled, as Scalie is a furry term which refers to a variety of reptilian and amphibian anthropomorphs, where Scaled would match better with the other options, such as Feathered.

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endorsement points: 100

created: 10 June 16 at 07:15 AM (build: 6/4/2016 1:40 AM beta)

Korra

Sounds good to me, stick with the good convention we've got.

Astarte

If this changes, do we want another descriptive term for the skin type(s) covered under this heading that weren't themselves discrete individual scales?

Example, Scalie covers snakes, lizards, and amphibians (among others), but while a snake is scaled as most consider scales to be, a lizard is scaled but in a significantly different fashion from what the word scales usually brings to mind and amphibians aren't scaled at all (with exceptions).

Korra

Amphibians are considered scalies? I thought they'd just pick flesh or something.

Since it's meant to be a skin type, and both snakes and lizards have scales, and amphibians tend to have flesh, I think we're ok.

If there's meant to be a thing that lets you say "i'm a furry" and "i'm a scalie" and "i'm an avian" it probably isn't this trait, the "furry" option in there is to cover a... uh... (finger quotes) "skin" type rather than say you're a furry. (Coincidentally, that's about the same thing though.)

Astarte

I'm fine with that solution, but yes anything even remotely lizard like trends to get dumped in under scalie, including fantasy critters. These aren't strict labels in the furry community, least not in my experience

Quenthell

I'm supportive of whatever term people most relate to. Would they be different enough to justify both?

Wrecked Avent Site Administrator

This seems like it fits in better with our other skin type options. Scalie is kind of a catchall term in furry communities for non-mammalian anthro - I've even seen it applied to things like birds.

We would just need categories to cover those.

Astarte

I've never seen true birds called anything other than avians. The only birds I've ever seen called scalies were dinos.

Korra

We could actually call it scaled but also give it a search alias of scalie. Or vice versa.

Quenthell

What would the differences be? Mostly asking what's the difference between scalie and scaled.

Korra

Astarte explained Scalie was a little bit broader and covers amphibians as well as scaled reptiles; the Scalie (en.wikifur.com) entry on wikifur concurs.

Astarte

Scalie's a catchall term for character species from various furry sites. Scaled would be an actual skintype, implying you possessed scales. Snakes, Dragons, Fish, Lizards, Crocs, gators are all scaled though the type of scales vary. Not necessarily any benefit in drawing a distinction between the types of scales though. The only part that might've needed some added descriptor is say amphibian skin, though flesh works fine since I don't know of any better terminology for it.

Quenthell

So it's a "All X are Y but not all Y are X" thing?

Korra

So, curious about the potential impact on existing profiles here, I ran a search for find scalie profiles and checked on our frog and salamander profiles. We have no frog/salamander profiles listed (!). Most of our "scalie" profiles are scaled (dragons, drakes, nagas, lamias, lizards, snakes, etc), but there's a couple of dinosaurs in there and i figure they're "scalie" rather than "scaled".

At least, going by profiles that have been left configured to show up in search.

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