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Feedback ยท Move trait-options from "Supernatural nature" to "Species" (needs discussion)

The traits I suggest to move are "Undead", "Deity", "Super Human", "Demon", "Angel", "Vampire", "Monster" and "Extraterrestrial".

Since "machine" was added to species, we could make a clear cut and add those also and rename "Supernatural nature" to "Supernatural power" again.

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created: 02 August 16 at 12:02 PM (build: 8/1/2016 2:12 AM beta)

closed: 14 August 16 at 02:08 AM (build: 8/9/2016 11:40 PM beta)

Wrecked Avent Site Administrator

Well, the problem here is vampire etc aren't really species, so you lose the ability to find, for example, elf vampires, instead of human ones.

Desdemona Fireheart

Why is a vampire not a real species?

An elf-vampire is a mix between two species like a cat-human, a Neko. You get the ability to find mixed species by using two species-traits. Human, Elf and Vampire, all three can be arbitrarily combined. Human+Elf=Half-elf. Human+Elf+Vampire = Half-Elf-Vampire. Question is, why are Human and Elf species and a Vampire is not?

Wrecked Avent Site Administrator

Vampires are a disease or a curse or a state of being, not something onto themselves. You have human vampires or cat vampires, but you don't have vampires per se. This is why we have not added them to species as of yet.

Del'issari

I completely agree with that notion. Del'Issari is a cat Deity. She's not a human deity. She's a cat! Thereby, I like it how it is. Also, a supernatural nature helps to better define the character and the abilities. a Deity character would play differently then a Shapeshifter, or someone without a supernatural nature (AKA, the basic species) ... Another example of that is a Cyborg. There's a dog cyborg out there. There are also human cyborgs, and in a cyberpunk setting, like shadowrun, you'll have elf cyborgs or trolls or whatever. So yeah. This needs to stay. Its helpful!

Desdemona Fireheart

Vampires are usually created by a curse, this doesn't mean they are a curse. There are also vampires who reproduce by having children, the vampires of "Vampire Academy" for example. And this doesn't count for Angels, Demons, Monsters and Extraterrestrials.

@Del'issari That there is a species "God" doesn't mean there is no supernatural power "deity". There is "machine" as species and "technological" as supernatural nature. But if I play Zeus I don't want to take human as species. Zeus is a god not a human.

A dog cyborg is species:dog and supernatural-nature:technological. My suggestion was not to remove supernatural-nature.

My point is: If "Machine" is a species then "God" is also a species.

Del'issari

God is a state of being ... Zeus is often reffered to as Olympian in the greek mythos.

Desdemona Fireheart

Because he is living on the Olympe, like an Athenian lives in Athens. He is a Titan. At least his parents are Titans. I'd say the species is the state of being.

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