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Feedback ยท Terms of Service (implemented)

I would like to get a review from the current users on a possible TOS for the site. If you want one, need one or think it is not worth to have one.

From my personal experience, a TOS is a great asset to protect the site, but also the users and their content they create. It practices due diligence and creates trust for any future users that they are protected as much as the site is.

A TOS would include the site's rules, an explanation on the license that all user content is placed to for the actual software/server to host it and any proper disclaimers to protect the site from any future problems that will arise. It also makes it clear-cut on how a user's content is handled and different ways to go about things if certain situations arise where the content is in jeopardy somehow.

For instance, a TOS can prevent whole parts of a RP from being deleted. Or, a TOS can make sure that those parts can be deleted by request, regardless of the RP itself and its archive integrity.

A TOS can also have a separate 'cliff notes' on the side in more friendly language that makes the legalize-like wording easier to understand so every user understands what they are getting into.

A TOS is binding if a user is 'walled' with it before registration and must click 'I agree' to move forward. Further use of the site after the fact also demonstrates a user's will to adhere to the TOS's contents.

I am asking for feedback and review on this, if you all would like a TOS. Or perhaps explain why not.

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endorsement points: 205

created: 18 January 15 at 06:08 AM (build: 1/14/2015 7:39 PM alpha)

closed: 07 February 15 at 06:07 AM (build: 2/7/2015 5:59 AM beta)

Wrecked Avent Site Administrator

Marked as "needs discussion" given the body of the suggestion.

Velus

I would like a TOS, for your benefit and ours.

From what I understand, you need a terms of service at the very least to limit your liability, and to create a mutual contractual agreement on provision and usage of the service. (Like the typical "I'm not liable for anything, and if this breaks your stuff it's your fault." found at the beginning of terms of use.)

Likewise, it can give us a clear understanding of what the deal is here. For one major issue: privacy! What are you able to look at? How will our data be used, and how long will it be kept, and who will be able to see it for what purposes? What will happen to deleted data: is it stored indefinitely, is it deleted immediately, is it kept around for a defined period then removed? If it's kept around, for what purpose? This is important stuff to know, to understand what you'll do with the sensitive information we're putting in your hands.

Some understanding of the rules here would also be good. Better to define those than leave them undefined! I don't expect we'll necessarily need a code of conduct, but something to advise what kind of behaviour is okay and what isn't, and what the consequences may be. For instance: verbally abusing a player (but bearing in mind some people in the agewalled sections of the site are into that sort of thing or w/e).

Pascal

Yes, a TOS would be great. Also, it would prevent people from trying to attack you. Without a TOS, as it stands now, people could claim that your site has caused damage, or if someone gets a stalker on here, or something happens that's criminal (say, posting of real child pornography) ... you are not protected and authorities could shut down the site. Stating in a TOS that any illegal activities on the site will be removed immediately and that the User risks a ban on the matter, you would protect the site from such cases. Sad to say, but if you don't get any law backing... Litphoria maybe forced to close down due to that. Especially as the pictures that the profiles use are stored on your server. If something indecent goes through, your providers may decide to destroy all data to protect themselves. Right now, it may not be necessary, but eventually, it will become a necessity.

Wrecked Avent Site Administrator

Impression seems to be positive, so I'm opening this up for endorsements to see how much people want this.

Wrecked Avent Site Administrator

Note, that ToSs are complicated creatures. For a site like this that consumes (and retains) quite a lot of user data it'll be even more complicated. I will have to set up a meeting with a lawyer and pay several hundred to get a real legit ToS that will work in all cases, but as that is very pricey I may just use a generator and tweak one to cover in the mean time until more people are using the site and I can more easily justify dropping that much money on it.

Pascal

You could probably grab F-list's ToS and change it to fit your needs, as F-List provides a similar service, the ToS being similar could be justified easily.

Spotsnout

I wouldn't grab FList's TOS simply because FList's TOS is designed specifically for FList and, well, Litphoria ISN'T FList. Unless both sites will function identically in both mechanics and administration (please god no) then it would be inappropriate and prove a lot of work to reword the legalese to fit, at which point you'd have better luck making a new one. I'd say, personally, that a set of rules and a basic 'when you sign up you agree not to do x' would be in order until the site gains enough traction to justify investing in a proper, ironclad, legalese TOS.

Velus

Sure, anyone can write a ToS, but lawyer-level expertise would ensure it's written well and does what it's supposed to do (waives and assigns liabilities appropriately, etc).

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